Team Members: Carly Orr, Donna Braaten & Hung Dang Le
September 24, 2010
Part I: Student Interviews
One member of our group works in a tutoring centre. A written survey that contained our top 5 questions was administered to about 20 students. These students come 2-3 times a week for homework help and extra challenges. They range from grades 6-12. They come from both private and public schools, and different neighbourhoods in Vancouver. The level of the students range from A to C+.
From our surveys, we noticed that the elementary school children gave mostly simple, and some one line answers. The older students have more detailed answers, so our analysis is mainly based on these senior math students.
Here is a snapshot of Student Responses:
- Most students appreciate teachers who are patient, friendly, and care if you understand or not. Being entertaining or funny was a bonus.
- Most students appreciate teachers who take the time to help OUTSIDE of class time.
- Most students (both the strong and weak ones) say they like Math, especially when they understand it, or when it is "fun".
- Most students want teachers who are WILLING to explain more when students need it, WILLING to offer help when kids are stuck after a lesson, WILLING to take more time to mark homework and assess more frequently to see if each student is "getting" it.
- Most students will ask friends first when they are stuck, or postpone asking the teacher until after class, or until they have asked a friend?
- What students find intimidating: word problems, big numbers, not understanding something, getting the "final answer" wrong (but did most of the steps right).
Based on the information gathered some reflections come to mind:
- Math is fun (and motivating) only if you get it. Therefore as teachers, we must do whatever it takes, to help students "GET IT", both the process, and the final answer. Otherwise it is frustrating experience for both sides.
- It is a fact that some students will need help outside of class. How far am I willing to go in extending office hours to help these students?
- While peer-teaching is encouraged, we also want to ask: Why are students not likely to ask teachers first when they are stuck? Is it because they are inaccessible? or do teachers make the students feel "dumb"? or is the teacher not able to add any explanation that would make a difference? Maybe teachers need to make students feel safe about asking "dumb" questions. Maybe teachers need to offer more time after school. Maybe teachers need to try explaining things from another perspective (relationally?) when a students consistently still does not understand after repeated explanations? Am I willing to try another way of explaining an age-old concept?
Part II Teacher Interview
Ms. X is a math teacher at a high school in Vancouver not too far from UBC. She has been teaching for about 7 years. She was very willing to open her classroom for us to conduct an interview to provide insightful answers to our burning questions listed below:
- How do you know whether or not students are "getting it" during class time?
- What do you do if a student is too shy or embarrassed to ask for help?
- How much time do you feel you need to spend on class preparation?
- Do you have any methods, which help make a Math lesson more interesting?
- When you mark your students’ tests, which aspect is more important: the correct number (as an answer) or the method used?
Although all of her responses were quite helpful, questions 4 and 5 revealed some particularly strong insights focusing on student engagement and assessment.
In order to make her classes more interesting, Ms. X referred to the field of “eductainment”. She often uses humour in the classroom to keep the students engaged while also introducing them to new concepts. Specific examples of this were as simple as putting as putting on “nerd” glasses to introducing new shapes by making the students think about what it could possibly mean (example below). Many such pictures and graphs were placed around the classroom for the students to view.
Ms. X also had strong opinions when it comes to assessment. She believes that the answer as well as the approach are necessary. More importantly, she believes in assessment for learning and not assessment of learning. She wants to keep the student engaged and for them to remain interested. When students start to see signs of success, it keeps them engaged. For regular assignments, she uses a 100 – 75 – 50 – 0 scale. If a student does not like their grade on an assignment, they may resubmit. Tests are different and cannot be redone. In summary, Ms. X believes teachers are put into an arbitrator role instead of coach. She believes a student should have every opportunity to improve during the assignments with the test being the final “game”.
Lastly, Ms. X provided us with a view useful links that we can use in the classroom. In particular, Ms. X. often uses the manipulatives available on line from the National Library of Virtual Manipulatives – http://nlvm.usu.edu/ . She also uses a popular blog with the students, FAILBlog - http://failblog.org/ and asks students to find examples of math being misused.
Great Prezi presentation. I really enjoyed it.
ReplyDeleteIt must be a big project, but in return you get richer responses. From the students’ response, I got a feeling that the students are having a significantly huge demand for extra help and more explanation from the teachers. And this point has also been brought up by a couple other groups. I was thinking: maybe the teachers are under the pressure of catching up with the curriculum; therefore, the lessons have become very much curriculum driven which affect the quality of teaching? If it has become a major issue, then the school boards must have noticed at some point. Or this is why the BC Ministry of Education adjusted the curriculum and made it easier as Paul mentioned during his presentation?
“Math is fun only if you get it”. It is so true. Thanks for the links. They are helpful and interesting... and funny.
Hong
What I found most interesting, or what stood out for me the most in your presentation was what Mrs. X had to say about assessment. " Assessment FOR learning not assessment OF learning". To me this is and interesting and important distinction. If I remember correctly, an example of this was to give the opportunity to rewrite quizzes, which to me is only a start to the idea of assessment for learning. Doing assessment in this sort of a manner could really cater to more learning styles and give the chance to more students to excel in different areas and take a lot of pressure off/away from traditional testing.
ReplyDeleteGreat job with the Prezi presentation! Was Prezi hard to use?
ReplyDeleteI was surprised to hear that your group was able to get roughly 20 students to do this survey, but the more opinions you get, the more we learn I suppose. I agree with Mrs. X's idea of "assessment for learning and not assessment of learning", it emphasizes the importance of understanding the material. Rewriting assignments is also a great way to remember the concepts and review as well!
I read an article for another class that was related to this rewriting assignments idea, but allowing retests as well. The results showed that the students were less pressured about a quiz when they knew that there was a retest allowed, they used the initial test to gain knowledge rather than treating it as an actual quiz. The teacher and students were also able to learn more about how each student learns the material themselves and what method suits them best.
An interesting presentation of the practical viewpoint of students and teacher towards the mathematical learning and teaching. I am impressed by the use of the phrase "get it," for mathematical understanding.It has its own practical significance. yes, we teachers must do whatever it takes to help students to "get it." I think this is one of the reasons that many of the students need to have private tutoring who are not able to "get it" in the class. There is a need for relational understanding so that students may not feel lost.
ReplyDeleteI like Mrs. x's ideas of "eductainment," to make Mathematics learning interesting, and students will feel more comfortable with the subject. I also appreciaate her views regarding assessment, recognizing the importance of answwer as well as approach.
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ReplyDeleteI think most of us have gone into education with the acknowledgement that we would be available to our students as much as possible. Mathematics is one of the subjects students have the most difficulty with, and it is almost implied that being a math teacher extends far outside of the classroom time. I had accepted that fact, and considered it part of my job when I applied for this program. For the longest time I believed at least our classes are teaching to the majority of students, and supplementation would be required for the students on both ends of the learning scale. However now I am questioning how effective classroom teaching is for all students. The students in the learning centre come from a range of aptitudes and are still spending time outside of the classroom being taught mathematics. As an educator you are expected to produce the best output in a variety of kids that come from so many different backgrounds and skills. You can entertain kids in class, and hold students' attentions and interests if you are an effective teacher, but are you actually making the student learn the mathematics they are responsible for?
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me, that in the education system right now students do not learn math they are required to know solely in class. It becomes clear when you look at the abundant use of tutoring services, and the need for most students to have extra help. So then are we approaching teaching math wrong? How else can we teach it? I don't mean to be pessimistic but I wonder how much energy is being used to entertain and keep interest in a math class and then how much math needs to be taught on the side to supplement this classroom learning. Is it necessary that students spend so much of there free time trying to learn mathematics? On that note, are we creating students that hate mathematics? You mentioned the curriculum Hong, and I was curious about the restrictions of that as well. I recall the teaching of Dave Hewitt, and wonder how much he is tied down by the curriculum. He introduces ideas in a slow manner being attentive to his class's group think. He seems to make sure everyone “gets it” before moving ahead. Is this method of teaching possible within the curriculum expectations? And this evaluation is not really a fair comparison, because in our system how many his kids need to be taught outside of his class? Really if you consider the time spent on mathematics in a student's life, it almost seems like another class in itself. As another thought, outside of Dave Hewitt's methods, I am curious if mathematics is a subject that needs to be learned at an individual pace for all students, and can that really be achieved in a classroom?
A number of people have already commented on the quote "assessment FOR learning and not assessment OF learning". I agree that this is a very important distinction to make. I feel that it is something that most teachers are likely aware of (although the system requires that they also do at least some assessment OF learning). I think the problem is that most students don't see assessment in this way. They do poorly on a test and they think "I suck at this topic" rather than "I suck at this topic at the moment, I guess that means I need to spend more time on it". Once a test is over they move on and don't think about the material anymore. This attitude can also be seen in the nervousness students feel when taking a test. In their minds it is do or die which is of course very nerve racking. They see testing as the final step rather than something that can help them to grow and learn.
ReplyDeleteSo then how do we encourage students to change their views about assessment? This teacher had a good idea, but the fact that not many students were taking advantage of this indicates that students were still seeing the learning as being done once the test was done. Perhaps having quizzes throughout a unit rather than simply at the end?